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UTAH CFP process changes eff. 5/10/2011 & 1/1/2012
A bill from the Utah State Legislature was recently signed into law by the Governor, making some modest changes to the Utah permit process.
Utah will be posting detailed info on their website today, April 1 2011. Highlights and a Summary follow.
Utah continues to be the best value in terms of initial permit cost, ease and cost of renewal, and states covered.
(A complete discussion of the pending changes to the Utah permit program
is attached in line below, followed by a link to the Utah document to be
released today outlining the new processes.)
The highlights:
-- FIRST TIME applicant packets received by Utah AFTER May 10 2011 must
have a copy of the applicants home state permit attached.
-- RENEWAL applicant packets received by Utah AFTER Jan 1 2012 must have
a copy of the applicants home state permit attached.
(Students do NOT have to have their home state permit at the time of the
class, and other options will exist as detailed below ...)
(Also, the items above affect only a small percentage of students, as most
wish to add the Utah permit to their home state permit to increase the
number of states covered)
There are also some modest pricing changes:
-- FIRST TIME applicant packets received by Utah AFTER May 10 2011 have a
new pricing structure. (25 cents cheaper than now for non-residents of
Utah)
-- RENEWAL applicant packets received by Utah AFTER May 10 2011 have a new
pricing structure (a $5 increase)
***In short, if anyone in any of my classes does not have, or cannot
obtain, or does not wish to obtain their home state permit, and their
reason is not a disqualifying arrest or similar that would prevent their
application to another / alternate state, I will still require them to
complete a Utah app at the end of the class so I may endorse it via my
signature and affixing Utah's State Seal as proof of their training.***
***I will then also coordinate any additional topics, fingerprinting or
activities as necessary to allow them to apply for Florida, Arizona, etc
... as an alternative to Utah. Depending upon the residency of the
applicant (PA, OH, WV, etc ...) I can discuss with them individually as to
the benefits or merits of the available options.*** This is also one of
the reasons why I usually ask what each students state of residency is as
part of the class preregistration process.***
By location or group as appropriate, I will be titling most classes as a
"Multi State Concealed Carry Course" offering training and support for the
Utah, Florida, Arizona, Virginia and other permits.
***By using the above approach, no one gets left behind.***
EVERYONE can come out of the course qualified to apply for MULTIPLE
permits from MULTIPLE states, based upon their interests and needs.
The Utah application, even if never mailed to Utah, suffices as proof of training
that may be submitted to other states.
The Utah application is valid for submission to Utah for 1 year from the date of
the course, should they obtain their home state permit in the meantime and
wish to apply to Utah. It is still valid as proof of training even after that 1st year from the course date, ongoing.
As for myself, being a Utah Instructor, NRA Instructor and law enforcement
officer, the above represents little change from my existing training
delivery methods.
I have a second home in the south and have long traveled and covered all
or part of 10+ states and D.C. for the Utah program and other instruction.
For several years, I have offered supplemental material after the Utah
course is completed when teaching for groups or in locations that would
benefit from such, for example covering additional information or
activities required for Floridas permit when teaching for groups in or
from D.C. or Maryland, or when applying to a state that recognizes no
permit other than their own, and providing additional documention or a
certificate when necessary.
I have also used this approach in states such as PA for example where
individual students may have been denied a PA LTCF via the "discretionary
clause" of the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act by a non-2nd Amendment
friendly Sheriff.
***DETAILED INFO***
From the Utah Instructor Newsletter to be released today, April 1 2011.
The following are the items that might affect those applicants who are
non-residents of Utah. Items in the QUOTE sections in parentheses are my insertions for clarity /
emphasis.
Quote:
On May 10, 2011 several new laws will go into effect regarding concealed
firearm permits, fees and concealed firearm instructors.
The corresponding bills include: 1st Substitute S.B. 36, H.B. 214 and 1st
Substitute H.B. 257.
One major change in the new law is regarding some non-resident applicants
for the Utah concealed firearm permit.
If a non-resident applicant is from a state that either has a formal
reciprocity agreement with Utah or recognizes the Utah concealed firearm
permit, the applicant must hold and provide proof of a current concealed
firearm or concealed weapon permit issued by the applicant’s state of
residency upon application for the Utah concealed firearm permit.
This change will not affect those applicants who reside in a state that
does not have formal reciprocity or recognition with Utah, i.e.
California, New York, Kansas, etc.
Renewal applications will be under this new requirement starting January
1, 2012.
This change was largely due to the issue raised by some reciprocal states
whose residents chose to carry in their home state using a Utah permit,
thus depriving the states in question of a source of income. (I am of the
opinion that those who took issue should have taken the approach that they
make it a requirement that their residents carry in-state on their "own"
permit, similar to what West Virginia currently requires, rather than
mimicing Pennsylvanias standard for non-resident PA LTCFs). Utah took this
approach in order to avoid the risk of losing reciprocity with such
states.
Quote:
All (initial) applications received after (Tuesday) May 10, 2011 will be
required to submit new fees and a copy of that states’ concealed firearm
permit or concealed weapon permit, if applicable.
Regarding fees, in-state concealed firearm permit applicants will be
charged $60.00.
Out of state applicants will be charged $65.00.
All renewal applications (as of Tuesday May 10th) will be charged $15.00.
Current initial application fee for all (res. & non-res.) is $65.25
Current renewal fee for all (res. & non-res) is $10.00
Note: For the past several years, Utah has issued more non-resident
permits than resident permits, in a small way this "two-tiered" approach
offers Utah residents a bit of a break and allows non-residents (being the
majority of applicants) to shoulder their fair share of the costs of the
program.
Also, you may renew your Utah permit no more than 90 days before its date
of expiration. Those whose existing Utah permits will expire between now
and early August 2011 may save $5 by renewing as early as is allowed. You
do not "lose" any days by renewing early, your renewal permit will expire
5 years after the date of expiry of your existing permit.
Quote:
Another change involves fingerprints.
If an applicant submits fingerprints that are not accepted by the FBI or
fails to provide BCI with an additional set of fingerprints, the permit
may be denied, suspended or revoked.
This item is actually unchanged, it is merely a restatement of long
standing policy.
If your initial application packet's fingerprint card is rejected for any
reason, UTAH BCI mails you a letter and a blank fingerprint card so that you may be reprinted and resubmit your prints.
(Note: Fingerprinting is not required for permit renewals, only initial
applications.)
There are also some Instructor specific items that do not impact the
students attending the course.
Link to the Instructor Newsletter quoted above, in its entirety:
http://www.publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/documents/BCINewsletterApril2011.pdf
***END*** (webpage rev.04012011)
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